Who Killed John F. Kennedy?

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Re: Who Killed John F. Kennedy?

Post by hrmwrm » November 13th 2016 - 2:47 am

what have we learned about mental health and guns. :lol1: :lol1:
kinda anti climatic to think he was just a lunatic with a gun, isn't it. :cheers:

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Re: Who Killed John F. Kennedy?

Post by drcoolmor » October 22nd 2017 - 5:21 pm

Trump to release JFK files, subject to 'further information'
[Reuters]
By David Brunnstrom
,Reuters•October 21, 2017

By David Brunnstrom

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that, subject to receipt of further information, he planned to allow the opening of long-secret files on the November 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy due for release next week.

Politico magazine earlier quoted Trump administration and other U.S. government officials as saying the president would almost certainly block the release of information from some of the thousands of classified files, which the U.S. National Archives is scheduled to make public by an Oct. 26 deadline. (http://politi.co/2yGjMtr)

"Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened," Trump said in a tweet.

The Nov. 22 1963 assassination cut short "Camelot," as the 1,000 days of the Kennedy presidency became known. Kennedy was 46 and remains one of the most admired U.S. presidents.

Thousands of books, articles, TV shows, movies and documentaries have been produced about the assassination and surveys have shown a majority of Americans still distrust official evidence pointing to Lee Harvey Oswald as the sole killer.

Despite serious questions about the official inquest, and theories purporting that organized crime, Cuba or a cabal of U.S. security agents was involved, conspiracy theorists have yet to produce conclusive proof Oswald acted in consort with anyone.

Over the years, the National Archives has released most documents related to the case, but a final batch, amounting to tens of thousands of pages, remains and only Trump has the authority to decide whether some should continue to be withheld or released in redacted form.

The Washington Post and other media have quoted officials as saying that government agencies have lobbied Trump to withhold some of the documents, arguing that they could expose relatively recent intelligence and law enforcement operations.

Philip Shenon, the author of the Politico article and of a book on the assassination, said he did not think the last batch of papers contained any major bombshells, but may shed light on the activities of Oswald while he was traveling in Mexico City in late September 1963, and courting Cuban and Soviet spies."From the record we already have, we know he met there with Soviet spies and Cuban spies and other people who might have wanted to see Kennedy dead," Shenon said.

"It’s going to be very interesting to see what else the government knew about the threat Oswald might pose – how much more they learned about his trip in Mexico City and whether or not they bungled evidence to suggest he was a threat."

Shenon said it would be interesting, too, to see if there was anything in the documents to substantiate comments Trump made during his election campaign linking Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz's father to Oswald.

"It's the president's favorite conspiracy theory about the Kennedy assassination ... but I don't think there is," Shenon said.

Cruz's father Rafael has called Trump's allegations that he was pictured with Oswald in New Orleans before the assassination "ludicrous."
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Re: Who Killed John F. Kennedy?

Post by dcyel » October 22nd 2017 - 8:07 pm

Who killed both Kennedy's?

Simple answer:the CIA, the deep state, and some rogue FBI subjects conspiring together in order to avoid the dismantling of the military industrial complex.
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Re: Who Killed John F. Kennedy?

Post by drcoolmor » October 28th 2017 - 12:08 am

They did not release all the files, but what they did post is still being looked at. Think of this as an unassembled million-piece puzzle.
You can see then here at jfk files

Here are some of the highlights from the CNN and the New York Times so far.

CIA-mafia plot on Castro
A 1975 document from the Rockefeller Commission detailing the CIA's role in foreign assassinations said plans to assassinate Castro were undertaken in the early days of the Kennedy administration.
The report said Attorney General Robert Kennedy, the President's brother, told the FBI he learned the CIA hired an intermediary "to approach Sam Giancana with a proposition of paying $150,000 to hire some gunman to go into Cuba and kill Castro."

The attorney general said that made it hard to prosecute Giancana, a Sicilian American mobster.
"Attorney General Kennedy stated that the CIA should never undertake the use of mafia people again without first checking with the Department of Justice because it would be difficult to prosecute such people in the future," the report reads.
The report also said the CIA was later interested in using mobsters to deliver a poison pill to Castro in order to kill him.

The FBI got a death threat on Oswald the day before his murder
A document dated November 24, 1963, showed FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover addressing the death of Oswald at the hands of Jack Ruby.
"There is nothing further on the Oswald case except that he is dead," Hoover begins.
Hoover said the FBI's Dallas office received a call "from a man talking in a calm voice," saying he was a member of a committee to kill Oswald.

He said they pressed the Dallas chief of police to protect Oswald, but Ruby was nevertheless able to kill the gunman.
"Ruby says no one was associated with him and denies having made the telephone call to our Dallas office last night," Hoover said.
Hoover went on to say the FBI had evidence of Oswald's guilt and intercepts of Oswald's communications with Cuba and the Soviet Union. He said he was concerned there would be doubt in the public about Oswald's guilt and that President Lyndon Johnson would appoint a commission to investigate the assassination.

Sabotaging plane parts
A national security council document from 1962 -- before Kennedy's murder -- referenced "Operation Mongoose," a covert attempt to topple communism in Cuba.
In the minutes of a secret meeting on Operation Mongoose from September 14,1962, "General (Marshall) Carter said that the CIA would examine the possibilities of sabotaging airplane parts which are scheduled to be shipped from Canada to Cuba."
Passing blame for a coup in South Vietnam

A top secret document from 1975 for the Rockefeller Commission outlines the testimony of former CIA Director Richard Helms.
In the transcript, Helms said he thought former President Richard Nixon believed the CIA was responsible for the death of South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem, who died following a coup linked to the CIA.
"There is absolutely no evidence of this in the agency records and the whole thing has been, I mean rather -- what is the word I want -- heated by the fact that President Johnson used to go around saying that the reason President Kennedy was assassinated was that he had assassinated President Diem and this was just ... justice," Helms said.
Helms added: "where he got this from, I don't know."
The deposition continues, with him being asked if there was any way Oswald was in some way a CIA agent or an agent," before the document cuts off.
Alleged Cuban intel officer said he knew Oswald
A cable from the FBI in 1967 quoted one man quipping Oswald must have been a good shot.
The alleged Cuban officer returned, "oh, he was quite good."
Asked why he said that, the officer said, "I knew him."

Soviets said killing was an 'organized conspiracy'
FBI Director Hoover forwarded a memo to the White House in 1963, shortly after Kennedy's death. The memo, obtained by the Church Committee and classified top secret, detailed US sources' sense of the reaction in the USSR to Kennedy's death.
"According to our source, officials of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union believed there was some well-organized conspiracy on the part of the 'ultraright' in the United States to effect a 'coup,'" the memo said. "They seem convinced that the assassination was not the deed of one man, but that it arose out of a carefully planned campaign in which several people played a part."

The source said the Soviet officials claimed no connection between Oswald and the USSR, and described him as "a neurotic gunman."
CIA intercepts call from Oswald to KGB
A CIA memo from the day of Kennedy's assassination outlined a CIA intercept of a call from Oswald, then in Mexico City, to the Russian embassy in Mexico. Oswald spoke to the consul, Valeriy Vladimirovich Kostikov, an "identified KGB officer" "in broken Russian."
The memo's author said he was told by the FBI's liaison officer that the bureau believed Oswald's visit was to get help with a passport or visa.

• Mexico was a cooperative partner with the United States in many ways — from helping to wiretap the Soviet and Cuban Embassies well prior to the assassination, to thorough attempts to investigate Lee Harvey Oswald’s ties in the country after Kennedy’s murder. Sources told the C.I.A. that Oswald had deposited $5,000 in a Mexican bank. In a document dated March 9, 1964, Mexico was reported to have traced all deposits in Mexican banks, looking for the money. They found no such Oswald transaction.

• The F.B.I. closely monitored the activities of attorney and conspiracy advocate Mark Lane, who was representing Marguerite Oswald, mother of Lee. According to an F.B.I. source, a bizarre meeting Mr. Lane had with a Polish journalist in January 1964 saw wild conspiracy theories tossed around, including a ridiculous claim in a far-right Italian newspaper that J.D. Tippit, the Dallas policeman killed by Oswald shortly after Oswald shot Kennedy, was the real presidential assassin — and that Jack Ruby had killed Mr. Tippit.

• A C.I.A. document alleges that Oswald may have been accompanied on his mysterious September 1963 trip to Mexico City by “El Mexicano.” According to another document, “El Mexicano” is believed to have been Francisco Rodriguez Tamayo, the captain of Cuban Rebel Army 57 until he defected to the United States in June of 1959. A third file also identifies Rodriguez Tamayo as the head of the anti-Castro Training Camp at Pontchartrain, La.
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Re: Who Killed John F. Kennedy?

Post by dcyel » October 28th 2017 - 12:28 am

I am not convinced that Cuba or Russia was involved as there has been so many attempts to kill Castro over the years.I alone know about 57 failed murder attempts committed in a period ranged from 1959 until 2005.
The CIA is known for manipulating dossiers and is also one of the biggest fake news spreaders.
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Re: Who Killed John F. Kennedy?

Post by Ingolf » October 29th 2017 - 7:57 am

According to new wikileaks documents... Officer tippet killed JFK .... hmmm really ?

https://www.facebook.com/WikiLeaks-Upda ... ulRI6wdQrs

0i guess that Trump found out that he cannot control the CIA, just like JFK!

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